Syn:
I know, I'm sorry about that - maybe we can arrange that at some point.
... I can only assure other parties that the file is safe to download and that there is nothing hideous onboard.
(probably should have posted here rather than 'friends')
a good friend of mine has spent a considerable amount of time building an air-tight case against the societies handling of the united nations issue and has uploaded the information to share.
the document is just under 1 megabyte in size and suitable for print in microsoft word.. i suggest anybody with even a passing interest in this issue, downloads the file now.
Syn:
I know, I'm sorry about that - maybe we can arrange that at some point.
... I can only assure other parties that the file is safe to download and that there is nothing hideous onboard.
the following i wrote to a friend this morning and doctored slightly for this forum.
can any of you relate to this kind of mystical experience and if you would be kind enough, would you mind me quoting any experiences listed to my friend?
please be aware that the letter uses language to detach me away from the watchtower (thus church, instead of congregation etc).
Alchemy being one. I guess parascience can't claim it any more, because science has claimed it as it's own and stamped a patent on it!
LT:
A true statement. The forefathers of modern science would be considered occult practitioners.
the following i wrote to a friend this morning and doctored slightly for this forum.
can any of you relate to this kind of mystical experience and if you would be kind enough, would you mind me quoting any experiences listed to my friend?
please be aware that the letter uses language to detach me away from the watchtower (thus church, instead of congregation etc).
Show me the replicated experiments.
REM:
I'm not sure what you will make of this.
One of my best friends has had experiences for many years and a short while ago with an open mind I decided to press him for further information and help quantify the data (if you like).
Now, his experiences are unusual in the way they occur, as they have been witnessed by others and in particular one chap who reminds me slightly of you (well, your opinions I should say).
Anyway... the experiences:
1. Constant orbs & misting around his house which he can often ask to appear. This occurs every week at the moment and if he seeks the experience - daily. An orb has also appeared outside of the house, and within his presence. Orbs have also passed through the last house he lived in. His girlfriend also sees the orbs and a skeptical friend (that chap mentioned earlier) has sat in on sessions and witnessed temperature changes and light manifestation.
2. The usual temperature changes in certain areas of his house during manifestation - rooms becoming increasingly cold.
3. A few years back, a dark figure appeared at the end of his bed on two occasions. Then on the third occasion a ghostly white image of a girl appeared at the side of his bed. During this series of apparitions he had horrific nightmares where he was grappling with a dark figure on top of a cliff, it was after the girl appeared that he was released from the dream. Of course, this was isolated and personal to my friend, so cannot be verified by an outside source, although he assures me that he was wide awake when viewing the figures (and really scared).
4. In two places he lived a pulse of energy shot through the property and shook the furniture (we do not live in an area usually affected by earthquakes by the way - just to cover that one). I believe his girlfriend also felt this.
5. Premonition in a minor way of events through dreams.
His sister also has profound experiences and his father although having been apparently a talented astrologer and having an active interest in the occult many years ago, will now not discuss his feelings towards his son and daughter's experiences and tends to try and direct them away from pursuing their interest.
His sister claims to have medium ability and once had an experience with a demon who revealed it's name and she will not discuss the matter with her brother and reveal the name due to fear and this event appears to have marked her.
The orbs have been captured using a digital camera and he also uses other equipment to record environmental changes at the time of his experiences.
I have been invited over to sit in with him, but being the coward that I am - well, I can't quite shake off the ' Dark Gods ' in my mind.
This guy has never been a JW, is not a Christian, does not believe in a personal God, loves technology and science and is starting to question the fabric of this reality based around his experiences through the years.
What really freaked him out was asking the room (as he describes it) to show itself and orbs manifesting. This he only did recently and has opened up a whole new world of possibilities in terms of theory.
Anyway - I know it is easy to push this all into the land of the fairies, but I wish you knew my friend and my other friends who have all had odd experiences including physical manifestation.
I stand amongst them as the skeptic (on purpose); attempting to put a rational spin on these things. I consider this as important a role as their role as the mystic and purveyor of the supernatural.
None of this adds anything to your life, I understand that and have nothing of worth to offer you, aside from the possibility of a belief system in other realities aside from the immediate and verifible objective universe.
(probably should have posted here rather than 'friends')
a good friend of mine has spent a considerable amount of time building an air-tight case against the societies handling of the united nations issue and has uploaded the information to share.
the document is just under 1 megabyte in size and suitable for print in microsoft word.. i suggest anybody with even a passing interest in this issue, downloads the file now.
(probably should have posted here rather than 'friends')
A good friend of mine has spent a considerable amount of time building an air-tight case against the societies handling of the United Nations issue and has uploaded the information to share.
The document is just under 1 megabyte in size and suitable for print in Microsoft Word.
I suggest anybody with even a passing interest in this issue, downloads the file now. It is suitable for study purposes and sharing with active JWs who are curious about the ins and outs of the UN debacle.
The link:
a good friend of mine has spent a considerable amount of time building an air-tight case against the societies handling of the united nations issue and has uploaded the information to share.
the document is just under 1 megabyte in size and suitable for print in microsoft word.
i suggest anybody with even a passing interest in this issue, downloads the file now.
A good friend of mine has spent a considerable amount of time building an air-tight case against the societies handling of the United Nations issue and has uploaded the information to share.
The document is just under 1 megabyte in size and suitable for print in Microsoft Word.
I suggest anybody with even a passing interest in this issue, downloads the file now. It is suitable for study purposes and sharing with active JWs who are curious about the ins and outs of the UN debacle.
The link:
http://www.beardfreak.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk//un.htm
Cheers
El blanko
the following i wrote to a friend this morning and doctored slightly for this forum.
can any of you relate to this kind of mystical experience and if you would be kind enough, would you mind me quoting any experiences listed to my friend?
please be aware that the letter uses language to detach me away from the watchtower (thus church, instead of congregation etc).
El blanko's experience may have been from a spirit, or could have been him tapping into his own, or a community subconscious, or something else.
Satanus:
I have no way of telling which is truth. The predicted pattern of events within the stated example upon the carrier wave were detailed and literally stopped me in my tracks afterwards.
Now, how does this energy or spirit know future events? Does the carrier wave contain all probable data regarding circumstantial outcome, based around patterns of individual behaviour noted back down the timeline?
I have no idea and can only impress upon the thread that the feelings I felt were tangible.
Whatever the explanation - it still blows my mind and makes me aware of invisible realities.
the following i wrote to a friend this morning and doctored slightly for this forum.
can any of you relate to this kind of mystical experience and if you would be kind enough, would you mind me quoting any experiences listed to my friend?
please be aware that the letter uses language to detach me away from the watchtower (thus church, instead of congregation etc).
I do find it hard to comprehend why a God/Spirit would provide strength for el blanko to deliver a letter to an elder and not provide the strength needed for ones in abusive situations to free themselves.
Shotgun:
Damn good point and believe me, I do not consider myself to be special because of an acute sense of awareness and connectvity at times. I think we all as humans have the ability to lower our character armour and attain this skill.
As to the experience being God's spirit or spirit/universal energy - I keep my mind open as to the source of the experience.
I am happy to hear alternate explanations of this, my reality.
Energy? spirit? semantics
the following i wrote to a friend this morning and doctored slightly for this forum.
can any of you relate to this kind of mystical experience and if you would be kind enough, would you mind me quoting any experiences listed to my friend?
please be aware that the letter uses language to detach me away from the watchtower (thus church, instead of congregation etc).
El Blanko:
See what I mean?
Yep - I never expected much input on the thread and am pleasantly surprised. Thank-you everybody for your shared experiences, this has been an interesting read and I hope other threads appear of this nature.
I am sorry for not replying individually, I was rather busy yesterday evening.
I may use a few of the thoughts with a friend, I hope you don't mind.
REM:
Thank-you for your input as well, I too have a skeptic sitting within my mind and it is good to challenge and attempt to rationalize experiences, even though at times there is no obvious explanation within the objective world of thought.
my ex husband (who is dfd but not a professsed apostate) told me yesterday that in october there is going to be a big push for preaching doom in service.. like the last chance to get people in before the end.. .
has anyone else heard this?.
i assume either his brother who is a dub or his mother have passed this on to him, in order to scare him to come back quick before everyone dies.. .
Last time 'the time of the end' thing came up, I said "you know what? even if I still thought you were right, the thought of all your love bombing when I come back to the JWs would be enough to put me off. Yesterday you wouldn't have pi**ed on me if I'd been on fire!! And even if I get through the big A, imagine having to spend eternity with a bunch of people like you. NO THANKS.
- eeeeeeeeeexcellent !
the following i wrote to a friend this morning and doctored slightly for this forum.
can any of you relate to this kind of mystical experience and if you would be kind enough, would you mind me quoting any experiences listed to my friend?
please be aware that the letter uses language to detach me away from the watchtower (thus church, instead of congregation etc).
I'm sure you don't mind being challenged, at all.
All I can say is that when you've been subjected to it for two or three years, it starts to get very old.
Thats very true. I have been challenged on many occasions face to face over the past few years.
Thanks for the PM